Success is a State of Mind - - Tommy Bahama Profits always take care of themselves but losses never do. The speculator has to insure himself against considerable losses by taking their first small loss. - - Jesse Livermore The game of speculation is the most uniformly fascinating game in the world. But it is not a game for the stupid, the mentally lazy, the man of inferior emotional balance, nor for the get-rich-quick adventurer. They will die poor. - - Jesse Livermore
Anyone have any non-IBD articles on historical growth vs. value performance?
Also if you have any good information about EPS growth and stock prices (charts for example) that would be great. I've found some great stuff so far, but I know you all can be very helpful.
You can clearly see that almost all of the top growth strategies beat the top value strategies.
This is a real test, with real money, by real traders, who really know the systems.
If this doesn't convince your professor. Give him my blog. I will tear him a new one.
I don't like these finance morons at the Academic level. Stupid freaking theories that dont work. These guys NEVER risk their own money to prove their pointless dribble does work.
I think their value preference has to do with the fact that they don't believe one can become the next Lynch/Buffett/Livermore (in fact I was told that today). In their eyes markets are efficient and value stocks are simply a buying opportunity. Soon enough the market will realize the stock's "true" value.
I'm out to prove them wrong about more than 50% of what they try to teach us. An Excel spreadsheet model popping out a price that is higher that the stock's current value does nothing for me. YOU DON'T BUY CHEAP....BUY CHEAP GETTING BETTER. They teach us "buy low and sell high" but never "buy high and sell higher." They say charts mean nothing....last time I checked X-rays tended to be important.
Hopefully I can come close to what MarketSpeculator has been able to do. I think he won the 'stock market challenge' four years in a row If it is all based on luck lend me that rabbit's foot.
Thanks Josh - I have an account on IBD and use this material all the time. And every single time I explain this strategy is based on history rather than on personal opinions or biases. I am now even going so far as highlighting other professional money managers who subscribe to the IBD philosophy. Look at William Danoff at Fidelity Investments (FA New Insights + Contrafund). I don't think it is ironic that he is nominated for PM of the Year and consistently outperforms his peers. Pick up one of O'Neil's books and you'll see endorsements by Danoff himself. His #1 criteria is accelerated earnings growth since the greatest stock market gainers of all time all displayed this common characteristic.
I'll keep you posted on how the academic world develops. I am only here until May 07 and then it's off into what they call "The Real World'
Just keep pouring this info out. Know that you are correct. No matter what he says you must always remember HISTORY can NOT lie! You have history on your side. Repeat that till he fails you. LOL.
Then when you make a ton of money trading stocks go back to him and show him your portfolio returns.
SmartMoney - 1 September 2006 (c) 2006 SmartMoney. All rights reserved.
Congress is considering a radical change to 401(k) plans that could increase savings and returns. Too bad fund companies can't agree on the right investments.
For two years Thomas Fontaine, a sandy-haired computer science Ph.D. and senior portfolio manager at AllianceBernstein, pored over spreadsheets in his nondescript 41st-floor office in midtown Manhattan. He studied reams of data on life expectancies, saving habits and historical stock market performance. His modest goal: to revolutionize the way Americans invest for retirement.
Fontaine's work is focused on a relatively new type of mutual fund designed for retirement accounts called target-date, or life-cycle, funds. These funds invest in a combination of stocks, bonds and other assets; what differentiates them is that they grow more conservative as investors age. And in a widely read report based on his findings, Fontaine argues that most existing target-date funds miss the target when it comes to asset allocation. In a second body slam to the industry, Fontaine says most funds are way too expensive as well. The bottom line: The wrong mix of assets in an overpriced fund could cost an investor hundreds of thousands of dollars by the time he retires.
Fontaine is not the only person who is zeroing in on target-date funds. Lawmakers are also weighing in on the issue, and a measure that may come up for a vote by September could transform retirement investing as we know it. A six-sentence provision buried deep in the 450-page pension-reform bill would open the door for employers to automatically enroll new employees in 401(k) plans and make target-date funds the default option. "This is one of the few issues that has broad support on both the left and the right," says Matt Moore, a senior policy analyst with the National Center for Policy Analysis.
Why is this a big deal? Under the current system, an employee who does nothing has no retirement plan -- and an awful lot of people do nothing. According to Hewitt Associates, more than half of eligible employees between the ages of 20 and 29 take a pass on enrolling in 401(k) plans, and nearly a third of thirtysomething workers haven't bothered to sign up. Among those who do, many stash their cash in safe, low-yielding bonds and money-market funds, though their retirements are decades away.
Even if that's not you-and if you're reading this magazine, it probably isn't-these proposed changes could have a big impact on your finances. According to AllianceBernstein, hundreds of billions of dollars in new money could flow into the stock market over the next 10 years if target-date funds do indeed take hold, and that steady inflow of cash could help support stock prices for decades to come.
With so much money at stake, even small differences in the way life-cycle funds invest could have a huge impact on a retiree's financial well-being. So you would think that funds designed for people who plan to retire in, say, 2030 would be pretty much in agreement on how that money is spread out between stocks and bonds. Think again. T. Rowe Price's Retirement 2030 fund is 93.5 percent invested in stocks, while Barclays Life Path 2030 fund thinks 78 percent in equities is the right mix for a 40-year-old retirement investor. The difference in those two assumptions could be enormous. According to one of Fontaine's calculations, a typical retirement portfolio that starts with 90 percent of assets in stocks and then scales back to 65 percent by retirement could add up to as much as $2.5 million after 40 years of saving. A similar portfolio that starts with 70 percent in equities before recalibrating could be worth $1 million less.
What's more, there's a case to be made that mutual funds, which have traditionally been the backbone of 401(k) plans, may not be the best vehicle for target-date funds. Most life-cycle funds are funds-of-funds, meaning their portfolios are divided up among several separate mutual funds, usually within the same family. The Putnam Retirement Ready 2030 fund, for example, comprises six other funds, giving investors exposure to U.S. and international stock markets as well as cash and bonds. And those funds are the same ones that fund companies sell to retail investors, meaning target-date investors are paying retail prices for what is effectively a wholesale account. For example, Putnam's Retirement Ready fund charges annual fees of 1.37 percent of assets, or $137 a year for every $10,000 invested. Fidelity's Freedom fund, meanwhile, charges $79, while Seligman Time Horizon nicks investors for a whopping $221 per $10,000. Fontaine argues that 401(k) investors are getting a raw deal, and that life-cycle portfolios should not be invested in retail funds but ought to be run like pension-fund money -- complete with fees as low as $18 per $10,000. (Vanguard, it should be noted, charges just $20 per $10,000 for its Target Retirement portfolios, which are invested in index funds.) Alliance-Bernstein, of course, does have a dog in this fight. The company already manages $400 billion in pension money and hopes to get some of the business if Congress changes the law and target-date funds take off.
Fund companies counter that the pension analogy isn't perfect -- 401(k) investors expect a prospectus and individual statements, for example, which cost money. But they aren't dismissing Fontaine's argument either. "This is like institutional investing," acknowledges Jonathan Shelon, head of Fidelity's Freedom funds, in that there's a nearly infinite time horizon. And competitive pressures are driving expenses down. Last year, for example, Fidelity stopped charging the 0.08 percent annual premium it added on top of its life-cycle funds.
Even without any change in the law, target-date funds are a big business -- assets have ballooned 50 percent a year since 2001 and now exceed $89 billion. Fidelity manages half of those dollars, while the rest is divided mainly among Principal, T. Rowe Price, Vanguard and Barclays. American Century even signed up legendary cyclist Lance Armstrong to pitch its new life-cycle funds. But if the auto-enrollment measure is passed by Congress -- and Washington insiders say it's a question of when, not if -- the amount of money flowing into these funds will increase dramatically. "It would seem like Congress is helping out the mutual fund industry, because there will definitely be more assets," says Gilbert Mateer, president of retirement services at Bryn Mawr Trust. "But the critical point is that people aren't saving enough. If plans are put on autopilot, savings will increase."
Though target-date funds would seem a marketer's dream, the concept actually originated with a group of economists who were trying to figure out ways to encourage savings. The most effective way to get employees to participate in a 401(k) plan, they found, was to make inertia a force for good: Instead of requiring them to sign up, participation becomes the default option, and employees are given the chance to opt out. That simple change, according to one oft-cited study, is enough to make enrollment rates nearly double. But that's just the first step. Workers must also contribute enough money and invest it wisely. Richard Thaler, a noted professor of behavioral science and economics at the University of Chicago, has found a way to address both concerns. Thaler found that savings levels jumped when companies convinced employees to agree to automatically increase their contributions whenever their pay increases. Since their paychecks never shrink, but simply grow by less, the employees never suffer sticker shock.
And one way to get people to make better investment choices, Thaler told SmartMoney, was to offer fewer, not more, funds in retirement plans. Too many choices "can flummox less sophisticated employees," he says, and a diversified portfolio like a life-cycle fund is a good default option. As he told a congressional committee, "By incorporating simple lessons of psychology and a little common sense about human nature, it is actually quite easy to help Americans save."
Thaler's findings are hardly controversial, but the decision on what constitutes a proper mix of stocks and bonds is. Fontaine's report, published in October, comes to a radical conclusion. To account for longer life expectancies and soaring health care costs, he argues that investors need more growth than most funds provide and proposes that investors keep a majority of shareholder assets exposed to stocks until they are in their early 70s, an aggressive-and almost unheard of-posture. "We would argue a more conservative approach is actually the riskier one," says Fontaine, explaining that the biggest risk is not that retirees will lose money in the market, but that they will run out of money before they die. Almost every major fund family has since followed his lead to some extent or is contemplating making similar moves.
"This is something that's just happened over the past 180 days," says Doug Grove, who oversees life-cycle funds at Principal Financial Group. For example, Vanguard recently increased the stock allocation in its 2025 fund to 82.5 percent from 60 percent, and in March, Fidelity announced it was boosting the share of stocks its target-date funds will hold after investors retire. Others, however, believe the money-management industry has overreacted. "Our view is that the revisions taking place on the back end of these funds are rather risky," says Jeffrey Knight, a chief investment officer and asset-allocation specialist at Putnam. Putnam's life-cycle funds hold just 25 percent of assets in equities during retirement.
So what should individual investors do if they want to put their retirement savings on autopilot? Since most 401(k) plans offer target-date funds only from a single fund family, you probably are not in a position to choose among different offerings (though IRA investors -- and more than half the $3.7 trillion in IRAs comes from 401(k) plans that have been rolled over -- do have a choice). Instead, check the expense ratio. If it is high -- anything over 1.2 percent is pricey -- consider diversifying on your own by investing in a mix of index funds. Of course, that requires more work than just going on autopilot, and if you're not interested in monitoring and adjusting your investments, a life-cycle fund is a better bet.
The other consideration is asset allocation. Given the wide disparity in stock allocations, you'll have to do a gut check: How much volatility can you handle? A 40-year-old in the T. Rowe Price fund, with 93.5 percent in stocks, is signing up for much more of a roller-coaster ride than the Barclays investor. For instance, if an investor had put $100,000 in a fund with a mix similar to T. Rowe's in 1995, it would have increased to as much as $223,000 in 2000, only to shrink to $163,000 by 2002. In contrast, a portfolio with a mix similar to the Barclays 2030 fund would have doubled, to $204,000, by 2000, but would have fallen back to $169,000 by 2002. By the end of last year, however, both funds would be worth virtually the same amount -- $239,000 -- and investors who had been steadily putting away money in a T. Rowe-style allocation would now be on top.
If your only choice is a fund that seems too aggressive, one way to smooth the journey would be to allocate 90 percent of your money to the life-cycle fund, then put the rest in a stable-value fund. Such individual tweaking violates the autopilot spirit of target-date funds, but if it will keep you from panicking, it may be worth it. The reverse also works: An investor in a conservative life-cycle fund who wants more growth might keep 10 percent of his 401(k) holdings in, say, a total stock market index fund.
For most retirement savers, however, choosing a target-date fund is a one-decision investment. Take the 450 employees of the Sentry Group -- a Rochester, N.Y.-based manufacturer of safes. Nine out of 10 employees who contribute to the firm's 401(k) put their money in a Manning & Napier life-cycle fund. "We wanted to give our employees a vehicle where the decision-making process was done for them," says Kathy DeCann, Sentry's compensation and benefits manager. "They don't have to worry."
Success is a State of Mind - - Tommy Bahama Profits always take care of themselves but losses never do. The speculator has to insure himself against considerable losses by taking their first small loss. - - Jesse Livermore The game of speculation is the most uniformly fascinating game in the world. But it is not a game for the stupid, the mentally lazy, the man of inferior emotional balance, nor for the get-rich-quick adventurer. They will die poor. - - Jesse Livermore
Success is a State of Mind - - Tommy Bahama Profits always take care of themselves but losses never do. The speculator has to insure himself against considerable losses by taking their first small loss. - - Jesse Livermore The game of speculation is the most uniformly fascinating game in the world. But it is not a game for the stupid, the mentally lazy, the man of inferior emotional balance, nor for the get-rich-quick adventurer. They will die poor. - - Jesse Livermore
Success is a State of Mind - - Tommy Bahama Profits always take care of themselves but losses never do. The speculator has to insure himself against considerable losses by taking their first small loss. - - Jesse Livermore The game of speculation is the most uniformly fascinating game in the world. But it is not a game for the stupid, the mentally lazy, the man of inferior emotional balance, nor for the get-rich-quick adventurer. They will die poor. - - Jesse Livermore
Anyone know of any free websites where I can find historical prices & performance of a particular sector? For example, I want to benchmark my particular technology holdings to the 3 month performance of the sector as a whole...Yahoo Finance doesn't show the historical prices
Success is a State of Mind - - Tommy Bahama Profits always take care of themselves but losses never do. The speculator has to insure himself against considerable losses by taking their first small loss. - - Jesse Livermore The game of speculation is the most uniformly fascinating game in the world. But it is not a game for the stupid, the mentally lazy, the man of inferior emotional balance, nor for the get-rich-quick adventurer. They will die poor. - - Jesse Livermore
There's no way to predict which stocks will go up, but it is possible to know what conditions lead to their advance.
That's the aim of the 20 Rules For Investment Success developed by Investor's Business Daily and its chairman and founder, William O'Neil. Using computer analysis going back several decades, it was possible to single out the characteristics of the most successful stocks before their major price runs.
IBD's 20 rules are a synthesis of those findings. The characteristics, in fact, have changed remarkably little over the years despite one of the longest bull markets in history, the worst bear market since the Great Depression and lots of changes on Wall Street.
In many ways, these rules confirm some tenets of stock investing, such as the power of earnings growth and blockbuster products. But in other ways, the rules defy long-held beliefs. For example, price/earnings ratios and dividends are written off as predictors of future performance.
To be sure, most winning stocks stop short of possessing every trait outlined. But the better a stock matches up to the criteria, the stronger is its potential.
If there's a way to quantify the success of these rules, it's probably found in The IBD 100 Index, which tracks the performance of stocks chosen largely for their adherence to these principles. Through Thursday, August 24, the index was up 122.4% from its inception more than three years ago vs. a 39% gain for the S&P 500 over the same period.